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	<title>Comments on: South Teams Racing Against the Weather for Summits</title>
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		<title>By: Jason Cook</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Cook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2010 22:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said(written)that is.Yes,I agree Rick.In all that we can control as humans that is a top priority to having a safe climb.A good place to start in mountaineering if one asks me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said(written)that is.Yes,I agree Rick.In all that we can control as humans that is a top priority to having a safe climb.A good place to start in mountaineering if one asks me.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
		<link>http://www.alanarnette.com/news/2010/05/14/south-teams-racing-against-the-weather-for-summits/#comment-347</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 May 2010 01:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick: &quot;As Peak Freaks reports, “This season we have three competitions… I just learned that there are three Western Australians climbing. The first to reach the summit will be given the title of the third Western Australian.” Really? The third? This is irrelevance reaching a new level of stupidity and if it drives them to push already thin margins.&quot;

&quot;Irrelevance&quot;.. well put. When it comes down to it, since the very first time every following Everest summit is redundant except to the summiteer. If one wants, surely there&#039;s some new random &quot;first&quot; that can be tacked onto it (first to the top with a hula hoop?). As far as I can tell, the summit is really an achievement of an individual vs. themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick: &#8220;As Peak Freaks reports, “This season we have three competitions… I just learned that there are three Western Australians climbing. The first to reach the summit will be given the title of the third Western Australian.” Really? The third? This is irrelevance reaching a new level of stupidity and if it drives them to push already thin margins.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Irrelevance&#8221;.. well put. When it comes down to it, since the very first time every following Everest summit is redundant except to the summiteer. If one wants, surely there&#8217;s some new random &#8220;first&#8221; that can be tacked onto it (first to the top with a hula hoop?). As far as I can tell, the summit is really an achievement of an individual vs. themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2010 17:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So it seems that Altitude Junkies/Skyclimbers are doing the right thing &quot;we have decided to bring down Anne-Mari and Pasang Wongchu Sherpa to base camp for safety reasons.&quot; Winds are not expected to abate. Maybe it&#039;s the certainty of the situation as forecasts now stand, but this whole competition thing really has me shaking my head.

My limited experience mountaineering tells me safety is often one of slim margins. Climbers push those margins enough already. Climbers on Everest push them even further. Add to that some idiotic competition, and its almost a guarantee somebody is working without a net. As Peak Freaks reports, &quot;This season we have three competitions... I just learned that there are three Western Australians climbing. The first to reach the summit will be given the title of the third Western Australian.&quot; Really? The third? This is irrelevance reaching a new level of stupidity and if it drives them to push already thin margins.

I had asked about differences in guides &amp; companies as I find myself drawn into this game. I&#039;m seriously questioning the judgment of Tim Rippel and Peak Freaks because they seem to have fed this game by promoting an early push and engaging in a little cloak and dagger. Not good judgment or maturity in my opinion. 

Thanks Alan for providing a window into this arena. I may benefit more from observing behavior on the mountain than reading any brochure. For my money, solid decision making skills are priority #1. I don&#039;t want a guide that is willing to sacrifice slim margins for cheap competitions, or anything else for that matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So it seems that Altitude Junkies/Skyclimbers are doing the right thing &#8220;we have decided to bring down Anne-Mari and Pasang Wongchu Sherpa to base camp for safety reasons.&#8221; Winds are not expected to abate. Maybe it&#8217;s the certainty of the situation as forecasts now stand, but this whole competition thing really has me shaking my head.</p>
<p>My limited experience mountaineering tells me safety is often one of slim margins. Climbers push those margins enough already. Climbers on Everest push them even further. Add to that some idiotic competition, and its almost a guarantee somebody is working without a net. As Peak Freaks reports, &#8220;This season we have three competitions&#8230; I just learned that there are three Western Australians climbing. The first to reach the summit will be given the title of the third Western Australian.&#8221; Really? The third? This is irrelevance reaching a new level of stupidity and if it drives them to push already thin margins.</p>
<p>I had asked about differences in guides &amp; companies as I find myself drawn into this game. I&#8217;m seriously questioning the judgment of Tim Rippel and Peak Freaks because they seem to have fed this game by promoting an early push and engaging in a little cloak and dagger. Not good judgment or maturity in my opinion. </p>
<p>Thanks Alan for providing a window into this arena. I may benefit more from observing behavior on the mountain than reading any brochure. For my money, solid decision making skills are priority #1. I don&#8217;t want a guide that is willing to sacrifice slim margins for cheap competitions, or anything else for that matter.</p>
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