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		<title>Comment on Continue to Follow the Climbs by cindy Abbott</title>
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		<dc:creator>cindy Abbott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2010 16:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good luck Alan!</description>
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		<title>Comment on Continue to Follow the Climbs by Alex Ortwein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Ortwein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2010 06:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you so much Alan for all the news and updates, no other site like it!  Best of luck to you on your 7 Summits quest!</description>
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		<title>Comment on China Sets Everest Age Limits by Alison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 05:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank goodness for that. It&#039;s great for kids to have dreams, and to believe they can do whatever they want to do with their lives and they can -- when they&#039;re 18. 

On a day when we&#039;re waiting to hear the fate of Abby Sunderland, this is terrific news for the wellbeing of children everywhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank goodness for that. It&#8217;s great for kids to have dreams, and to believe they can do whatever they want to do with their lives and they can &#8212; when they&#8217;re 18. </p>
<p>On a day when we&#8217;re waiting to hear the fate of Abby Sunderland, this is terrific news for the wellbeing of children everywhere.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cleaning the Mountain (updated) by Margaret Watroba</title>
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		<dc:creator>Margaret Watroba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 03:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alan, 

Here is accurate information as it is from the eye witness:

Peter &amp; Steve (the HRA doctors) comment regarding rescue of Mike is outrageous to say the least !
I was there with Mike every proverbial inch and minute during the descent from 8700m to C2 ! I&#039;m not a doctor but I have a Master Degree in science and through my work I have an extensive experience and training in assessing risks. what I have observed during those agonising hours was terryfing ! 
Mike acted in the same way as Peter on the North side who died on the 25 May at 8600 m, (his trauma is described on the net ), what I mean is that in one moment Mike, like Peter,  would talk completely &#039;normal&#039; and logical and then he was talking complete nonsense, refusing oxygen and tellig us that we want to poison him.....he could not stand up despite his real efforts, he was collapsing and it looked like he was loosing conciousness,  For those doctors to make statement that Mike could walk through Ice Fall is unbelivable ! Alan, you walk the Ice Fall many times so you know that it is an effort for a healthy person ! When finally Mike was at C2 it was very obviout to all of us that there is something really wrong with his health so what do you do in such case ? obviously you do not take chances, specially when it involves somone health &amp; life. One of those doctors (Peter) talk to Mike o/radio - is this enough to assess the person !??? and make statement that Mike was ok ?! As I&#039;ve said ,there were moments when Mike talk completly logical but that does not mean he was ok ! I know Peter also talk to Mike at the hospital but so what ? by then Mike was at lower altitude recovering and his worsts symptoms/state of past 48 hrs were probably gone. 

To state that Phil&#039;s action of calling helicopter was unnecessery is outrageous , my biggest worry however is : it is obvious those doctors are more concern with &#039;setting the precedence &#039; of using helicopter ....!! (as they stated above !) shouldn&#039;t they be concerned with a human life ? the case always is &#039;if in doubt play safe&#039; and after all none of them was there with Mike on the mountain to assess his state , assessment o/radio in this case is radicolous !. 

I&#039;ve climbed with Phil 2x now and being trained in safety I can categoricaly state from my own experience he is very safety oriented mountaineer and looks after clients wery well.

In summary:

For me as a climber it is a big worry that these two doctors are more concern with the use of helicopter than with the risk to human life by sending a sick person to decent via  a very well know for it&#039;s risk Ice Fall .....! 

Phil is an excellent=safety concious mountaineer whose No 1 concern is to provide the safe climing for all his clients.

Based on what I have eye witnessed his action of calling helicopter to C2 to rescue Mike was fully justified.

Those doctors made a sweeping statement about Mike state of health - base on...? , assessment o/radio and 48+hrs after the event at much lover altitude when the symptoms were gone..

Alan, thanks for wonderfull web, thanks for responding to my husband&#039;s email when I was on Everest
all the best
Margaret</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan, </p>
<p>Here is accurate information as it is from the eye witness:</p>
<p>Peter &amp; Steve (the HRA doctors) comment regarding rescue of Mike is outrageous to say the least !<br />
I was there with Mike every proverbial inch and minute during the descent from 8700m to C2 ! I&#8217;m not a doctor but I have a Master Degree in science and through my work I have an extensive experience and training in assessing risks. what I have observed during those agonising hours was terryfing !<br />
Mike acted in the same way as Peter on the North side who died on the 25 May at 8600 m, (his trauma is described on the net ), what I mean is that in one moment Mike, like Peter,  would talk completely &#8216;normal&#8217; and logical and then he was talking complete nonsense, refusing oxygen and tellig us that we want to poison him&#8230;..he could not stand up despite his real efforts, he was collapsing and it looked like he was loosing conciousness,  For those doctors to make statement that Mike could walk through Ice Fall is unbelivable ! Alan, you walk the Ice Fall many times so you know that it is an effort for a healthy person ! When finally Mike was at C2 it was very obviout to all of us that there is something really wrong with his health so what do you do in such case ? obviously you do not take chances, specially when it involves somone health &amp; life. One of those doctors (Peter) talk to Mike o/radio &#8211; is this enough to assess the person !??? and make statement that Mike was ok ?! As I&#8217;ve said ,there were moments when Mike talk completly logical but that does not mean he was ok ! I know Peter also talk to Mike at the hospital but so what ? by then Mike was at lower altitude recovering and his worsts symptoms/state of past 48 hrs were probably gone. </p>
<p>To state that Phil&#8217;s action of calling helicopter was unnecessery is outrageous , my biggest worry however is : it is obvious those doctors are more concern with &#8216;setting the precedence &#8216; of using helicopter &#8230;.!! (as they stated above !) shouldn&#8217;t they be concerned with a human life ? the case always is &#8216;if in doubt play safe&#8217; and after all none of them was there with Mike on the mountain to assess his state , assessment o/radio in this case is radicolous !. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve climbed with Phil 2x now and being trained in safety I can categoricaly state from my own experience he is very safety oriented mountaineer and looks after clients wery well.</p>
<p>In summary:</p>
<p>For me as a climber it is a big worry that these two doctors are more concern with the use of helicopter than with the risk to human life by sending a sick person to decent via  a very well know for it&#8217;s risk Ice Fall &#8230;..! </p>
<p>Phil is an excellent=safety concious mountaineer whose No 1 concern is to provide the safe climing for all his clients.</p>
<p>Based on what I have eye witnessed his action of calling helicopter to C2 to rescue Mike was fully justified.</p>
<p>Those doctors made a sweeping statement about Mike state of health &#8211; base on&#8230;? , assessment o/radio and 48+hrs after the event at much lover altitude when the symptoms were gone..</p>
<p>Alan, thanks for wonderfull web, thanks for responding to my husband&#8217;s email when I was on Everest<br />
all the best<br />
Margaret</p>
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		<title>Comment on China Sets Everest Age Limits by Eloise Fox Peyman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eloise Fox Peyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 01:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jordan&#039;s summit was amazing, he has done other summits so he was well prepared for Everest, he didn&#039;t just decide to do it on a whim he was obviously a strong young climber. I feel all Everest climbers should do at least one 8,000 metre peak before Everest or  doDenali. Sad though if over 60&#039;s are to old to climb, Many people in there 60&#039;s are still young for there age and very fit and strong and are still enjoying climbing with Everest as a goal in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jordan&#8217;s summit was amazing, he has done other summits so he was well prepared for Everest, he didn&#8217;t just decide to do it on a whim he was obviously a strong young climber. I feel all Everest climbers should do at least one 8,000 metre peak before Everest or  doDenali. Sad though if over 60&#8242;s are to old to climb, Many people in there 60&#8242;s are still young for there age and very fit and strong and are still enjoying climbing with Everest as a goal in the future.</p>
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		<title>Comment on China Sets Everest Age Limits by cindy Abbott</title>
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		<dc:creator>cindy Abbott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 22:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FYI: I summited from the South Side and in order to get Nepal&#039;s Certificate of summiting I had to give the Ministry of Tourism two passport photos and a photo of me on the summit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI: I summited from the South Side and in order to get Nepal&#8217;s Certificate of summiting I had to give the Ministry of Tourism two passport photos and a photo of me on the summit.</p>
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		<title>Comment on China Sets Everest Age Limits by Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 21:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alan, not trying to be a nay sayer I did take a look and again I saw close up video of Jordan ( and others) without seeing the surrounding area and I saw wide angle video of the mountain and surrounding range again, without Jordan in any of the frame. Is there any photos or video of Jordan where the camera is 10-20 feet away with a surrounding angle of view like the stand mountaineers pose or wide angle group photos and not just close up chest high photos?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan, not trying to be a nay sayer I did take a look and again I saw close up video of Jordan ( and others) without seeing the surrounding area and I saw wide angle video of the mountain and surrounding range again, without Jordan in any of the frame. Is there any photos or video of Jordan where the camera is 10-20 feet away with a surrounding angle of view like the stand mountaineers pose or wide angle group photos and not just close up chest high photos?</p>
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		<title>Comment on China Sets Everest Age Limits by Alan Arnette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Arnette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 20:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott on the &lt;a href=&quot;http://abcnews.go.com/2020/jordan-romero-teen-climber-young-face-mt-everest/story?id=10817732&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;20/20&lt;/a&gt; piece you can see him on the summit at the 7:26 mark.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott on the <a href="http://abcnews.go.com/2020/jordan-romero-teen-climber-young-face-mt-everest/story?id=10817732" rel="nofollow">20/20</a> piece you can see him on the summit at the 7:26 mark.</p>
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		<title>Comment on China Sets Everest Age Limits by Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 20:02:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone seen any photos of the Romero&#039;s summit which undisputedly(sp) shows them on the summit? I have not been able to find any on their website, their blog, their TV interviews, or anything. The only video and photos that I have found are too close up to verify the surrounding area. Regardless if they did or did not this whole things smells of another boy in a balloon. Really sad that this is happening to climbing and lets hope it can be contained at Everest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone seen any photos of the Romero&#8217;s summit which undisputedly(sp) shows them on the summit? I have not been able to find any on their website, their blog, their TV interviews, or anything. The only video and photos that I have found are too close up to verify the surrounding area. Regardless if they did or did not this whole things smells of another boy in a balloon. Really sad that this is happening to climbing and lets hope it can be contained at Everest.</p>
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		<title>Comment on China Sets Everest Age Limits by anne myatt</title>
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		<dc:creator>anne myatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 18:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lets cut the argument and the race
Why not take a pregnant woman to the top to give birth and hold the record...........................
These records and races are getting sadder and more pathetic by the minute.
I don&#039;t know what to think anymore of what was once a beautiful sport. When egos get in the way 
I guess this is what you are left with.
Sad or so sad</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lets cut the argument and the race<br />
Why not take a pregnant woman to the top to give birth and hold the record&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;<br />
These records and races are getting sadder and more pathetic by the minute.<br />
I don&#8217;t know what to think anymore of what was once a beautiful sport. When egos get in the way<br />
I guess this is what you are left with.<br />
Sad or so sad</p>
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