{"id":21453,"date":"2015-08-17T11:23:59","date_gmt":"2015-08-17T17:23:59","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.alanarnette.com\/blog\/?p=21453"},"modified":"2015-08-18T10:30:53","modified_gmt":"2015-08-18T16:30:53","slug":"showing-dead-bodies-reality-or-bad-taste","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.alanarnette.com\/blog\/2015\/08\/17\/showing-dead-bodies-reality-or-bad-taste\/","title":{"rendered":"Showing Dead Bodies: Reality or Bad Taste?"},"content":{"rendered":"<figure id=\"attachment_21454\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-21454\" style=\"width: 225px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.alanarnette.com\/blog\/2015\/08\/17\/showing-dead-bodies-reality-or-bad-taste\/img_2255\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-21454\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-thumbnail wp-image-21454\" src=\"http:\/\/www.alanarnette.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/08\/IMG_2255-225x169.jpg\" alt=\"K2 Memorial\" width=\"225\" height=\"169\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.alanarnette.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/08\/IMG_2255-225x169.jpg 225w, https:\/\/www.alanarnette.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/08\/IMG_2255-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.alanarnette.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/08\/IMG_2255-640x480.jpg 640w, https:\/\/www.alanarnette.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/08\/IMG_2255-900x675.jpg 900w, https:\/\/www.alanarnette.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/08\/IMG_2255.jpg 1600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 225px) 100vw, 225px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-21454\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">K2 Memorial<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p class=\"p1\">When is it acceptable to show a picture of dead body that is decomposing,   ambulance<\/a>  disfigured,   or disturbing to a viewer? Especially if it is somewhat recognizable by friends or family, unexpectedly?<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">In my sport of climbing, this situation has become more commonplace thus I wanted to explore it a bit in this post.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">With the Internet, we are exposed, often unknowingly or without warning,\u00a0to seeing all sorts of graphic scenes from torture to executions to accidents. To state the obvious, some of\u00a0the most popular movies and television shows exploit this morbid curiosity. Producers and viewers rationalize it as not being &#8220;real&#8221; since it was on TV or a movie screen.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">With so many cell phone cameras taking pictures of every event, there seems to be no filter as anyone with the picture has the capability to post on forums, private websites, sell\u00a0them to media outlets and more. Sadly, these posts seem to attract the morbid curious thus driving traffic and revenue from advertising to the outlet.<\/p>\n<h3 class=\"p1\">&#8220;Reality&#8221;\u00a0on K2<\/h3>\n<p class=\"p1\">A recent case in point was from the adventure Mike Horn while on K2.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">Mr. Horn is a well respected adventure with a huge loyal following. He attempted the world\u2019s second highest mountain and second most deadly in July 2015, K2. He and a small team pushed hard, made a great effort, but were\u00a0stopped by heavy snow. In fact no one summited K2 in 2015 making it four of out the last six years without a summit thus demonstrating just how difficult K2 can be.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">Upon his return to civilization, he posted on Facebook a well done 3 minute video of his effort. As the video showed him\u00a0discussing how deadly K2 can be, the picture shifted to a decapitated\u00a0head of\u00a0a climber for 2 seconds &#8211; more than enough time to see a disfigured mass with hair, eyes, a skewed mouth &#8211; and\u00a0the impression of a human\u00a0who died in great pain.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">It was found between Base Camp and Advanced Base Camp suggesting the death had happened higher up on the mountain and brought lower through the flow\u00a0of multiple avalanches that occurred this year.<\/p>\n<h3 class=\"p1\">Outrage from Friends and Family<\/h3>\n<p class=\"p1\">A collective cry of outrage began from friends and family of climbers who had died on K2. Their basic argument was that Mr. Horn was insensitive to post such an image.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/sequoia.angelo\" target=\"_blank\">Sequoia Di Angelo<\/a>, who lost her brother, Denali, and father Marty Schmidt in 2013 on K2 posted this on her&#8217;s\u00a0and Mr. Horn\u2019s Facebook pages:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"p3\"><span class=\"s1\">You have children correct? Please ask your daughter how she would feel if this was your head decomposing on the mountain and was put on a promotional video from another climbers expedition. Now over 87,000 people have viewed this morbid footage. This horrific image will be indelibly imprinted in my mind. Is nothing sacred anymore?<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"p5\"><span class=\"s2\">Another climber, Canadian <\/span><span class=\"s1\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/louis8000plus\" target=\"_blank\">Louis Rousseau<\/a>, said this in part in an open letter posted on several <a href=\"http:\/\/altitudepakistan.blogspot.com\/2015\/07\/summer-2015-filming-d-climbers.html\" target=\"_blank\">websites<\/a>:<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"p7\"><span class=\"s1\">I\u2019ve been climbing for almost 25 years now and my first high altitude expedition was when you did your\u00a0six-month solo traverse of the South American continent in 1997 about 18 years ago. During all those years, I lost friends in the mountains; I saw families crying for the loss of their own child.\u00a0I also saw the bodies of climbers and even parts of them. When possible, I put them away so other climbers could not take pictures of them. With a short prayer, it was the  I could do to show respect. What you did was the complete opposite approach and behaviour.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"p3\"><span class=\"s1\">Mr. Rousseau\u00a0summed up what many felt with this powerful sentence:<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"p7\"><span class=\"s1\">Imagine if it was the head of your own child lying right there on the snow. People take picture and filming. Did you lost some part of your sensibility with all your popularity and media exposure?<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"p5\">Mr. Horn took down the video, saying he and his colleagues considered the impact but\u00a0went ahead with the post.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 <\/span>In part, he posted this on his <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/PangaeaMikeHorn\/posts\/10155836378240542\" target=\"_blank\">Facebook<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"p3\"><span class=\"s1\">I do value everyone\u2019s opinion, being accused of being disrespectful towards the dead and their families is, of course, a matter of opinion. However, I do apologize if I offended anyone who lost loved ones and do not see life, and death, in the same way as I do. So we have removed the video from Facebook.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"p3\"><span class=\"s1\">I learned years ago that if you really mean\u00a0to apologize, you never use the word &#8220;if&#8221;. Then he went further to justify his decision to post the video in the first place:<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"p3\"><span class=\"s1\">When I die doing what I love, I die a happy man. My daughters and family will be happy for me, my spirit leaves my body that becomes old and useless and when my spirit is released it will roam the world with freedom and are finally released from the body that ties me down.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"p7\">Mr. Horn, sponsored by Mercedes Benz, has over 115,000 likes on his Facebook page and receives global publicity during his adventures from a large and loyal set of followers. His video had received thousands of likes and shares before it was removed.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 <\/span>The horse was out of the barn.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p7\">His \u201capology\u201d received 3,618 likes and was shared 195 times. In reviewing the 267 comments, about 170 were supportive of Mr. Horn\u2019s video, 60 were negative and the rest made no sense to me as they had not seen the video \u2026<\/p>\n<p class=\"p7\">These are few of the more thoughtful comment and are representative of the many:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<ul>\n<li class=\"p10\"><span class=\"s5\">I personally saw nothing wrong with your video and took some abuse for stating that on some people&#8217;s rants on other pages. Stay strong and stay safe Mike.<\/span><\/li>\n<li class=\"p10\"><span class=\"s5\">Mike, you are an example for many of us, living a life that many of us would like to live, it is true that some of the latest videos have been a bit different from what you normally do, but go ahead, Greetings!<\/span><\/li>\n<li class=\"p10\"><span class=\"s5\">Just remove the graphic part, Mike Horn.\u00a0We don&#8217;t need to see pictures of a corpse to convey it in our head. Not only it is inappropriate &amp; unnecessary for public viewing, but also it does strip dignity away from the dead person you depicted. I&#8217;m sure you will make the right decision. It&#8217;s your call. As a side note, I have been following you for many years. I have a great admiration and respect for what you are doing and I have read all your books. Best of luck for your future expeditions.<\/span><\/li>\n<li class=\"p12\"><span class=\"s1\">thank you for sharing and the harsh reality is that many climbers are killed each year and I don&#8217;t think you were being disrespectful but only showing the what can happen so people don&#8217;t take up mountain climbing without understanding the risks. <\/span><\/li>\n<li class=\"p12\"><span class=\"s1\">Cut the crap Mike! I&#8217;m very sorry you&#8217;ve lost your Wife and friends. You should have put a warning on that Video. That twisted face with its mangled jaw haunts me every day. YOU DID NOT ANSWER MY QUESTION? Why didn&#8217;t you bury that person and give him or her some dignity? If you are a man of values then stick by your statements!! RESPECT THE DEAD! That person like you was also an adventurer and wanted to climb to the summits. He or she didn&#8217;t make it. A tragedy. But you certainly didn&#8217;t have to post his or her face on your Video. SO CALLOUS. The one thing that you have proven, is that you are heartless with absolute no feeling to loss of life. BRAVO!<\/span><\/li>\n<li class=\"p10\"><span class=\"s5\">It seems like what many of the people commenting on the video had an issue with was the &#8216;gratuitousness&#8217; of the shot in question. It was used as a prop, an effect, an element of horror (&#8220;quelle horreur!&#8221;) to make your journey seem that much more &#8216;hard core&#8217; and &#8216;epic&#8217;.This approach, which was consistent with the rest of the style of your video (action! adventure! hardcore shots! slipping off an icy wall!) necessarily negates any implied respect or care, there was no subtlety or nuance in showing the skull. No further action on it was shown (i.e. carefully wrapping it and putting it to the side or burying it etc) and that is problematic.<\/span><\/li>\n<li class=\"p13\"><span class=\"s1\">It is not that you personally don&#8217;t care about the dead or lack respect for them, but aesthetically this shot and the way it was used just came across as crude and for personal gain only.<\/span><\/li>\n<li class=\"p15\"><span class=\"s5\">I don&#8217;t see anything &#8220;offensive&#8221; in that video you shared Mike. It was simply a motivating clip. This is the era where we have lot of lots of definitions so I am not sure what &#8220;offensive&#8221; means in that sense where a simple motivational video can offend someone to that extent, anyways. Stay blessed.<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/blockquote>\n<h3 class=\"p7\">In Bad Company<\/h3>\n<p class=\"p7\">Mr. Horn is far from the only recent example. After the tragic April Nepal earthquake, one guide posted pictures of dismembered bodies on his website, complete with names of the victims. He took it down after receiving many comments as to the inappropriateness of the images.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p7\">Simply Google \u201cdead bodies on Everest\u201d, or any other mountain, country or highway you want, and you will be rewarded with multiple hits that will satisfy your curiosity and, hopefully, make you sick to your stomach.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p7\">Serious newspapers, magazines and most television websites will often not post graphic pictures following a very loose code of ethics but many choose to and are rewarded with large ratings. The Internet has no rules thus it\u2019s up to the author to demonstrate sensitivity, respect and taste.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p7\">The only taboo area that has consensus\u00a0is around showing the faces of children.<\/p>\n<h3 class=\"p7\">Could or Should?<\/h3>\n<p class=\"p7\">In 2012, I<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 <\/span>wrote an <a href=\"http:\/\/www.alanarnette.com\/blog\/2012\/12\/06\/bodies-on-everest\/\" target=\"_blank\">article<\/a>\u00a0<span class=\"s7\">about bodies on Everest after the respected <\/span><span class=\"s1\">Smithsonian<\/span> did a blog post with links and pictures\u00a0of dead bodies. I primarily addressed why the bodies were still\u00a0there.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p16\">With Mr. Horn\u2019s decision, I was encouraged to rethink the appropriateness.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p16\">I fully agree that mountain are dangerous, the risk is evident to the climbers and families and consequences are real. I fully understand that if you die on the mountain, your body may be left for future climbers to step over, bury, or exploit for their own personal gain. I get it, and there is more.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p10\"><span class=\"s8\">K2 has seen over 85 deaths, Everest, 250, Mont Blanc, 2000 and on and on. To feel the need to show a picture of a corpse to \u201c<\/span><span class=\"s1\">to show the reality.\u201d as Mr. Horn declared, is naive at , exploitative at the worse. And in my opinion, inexcusable for an adventure of his stature. For Mercedes Benz to allow this\u00a0is suspect at . Have you ever seen a Mercedes Benz commercial with a mangled body hanging out of their latest car to denote the \u201creality\u201d of how accidents happen?<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p10\"><span class=\"s1\">We don&#8217;t need to see a burned hand to understand a fire can cause damage.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p10\"><span class=\"s1\">Sigh, but this is that age of sensationalism over the top. Freedom of the press. Freedom of speech, Freedom FROM\u00a0taste.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p10\">Perhaps showing &#8220;shock&#8221; video and images is useful in a controlled environment like a driver&#8217;s education course for 15 year-olds to force teach the concepts of not texting while driving.\u00a0But even\u00a0then, I personally don&#8217;t think it is needed.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p10\"><span class=\"s1\">The old adage in journalism is \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.psychologytoday.com\/blog\/two-takes-depression\/201106\/if-it-bleeds-it-leads-understanding-fear-based-media\" target=\"_blank\">if it bleeds it leads<\/a>\u201d and t<\/span><span class=\"s1\">he only rules in media, both public and private, are ones that each individual follows according to their own morals, conscience\u00a0and experience. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p10\"><span class=\"s1\">I suggest asking yourself how you would feel about seeing a decomposing image of your mother on the front page of your local newspaper, or on the main page of a website. You<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span>might be fine with it as it shows the \u201creality\u201d of life and death. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p10\"><span class=\"s1\">However, your choice is not the choice of all and to make your choice without considering the impact on others is selfish, arrogant and destructive.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p10\"><span class=\"s1\">Our society has many serious problems. This is not the most critical\u00a0but it is important. I\u00a0invite my fellow \u201cadventurers&#8221;, and anyone who has a choice, to exercise sensitivity and judgment when creating or perpetuating sensational headlines, images or stories. I especially invite editors of the popular adventure magazines and websites to\u00a0show restraint and taste. One day it may be your relative on your cover.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p10\">To be clear, Mr. Horn is an amazing adventurer, deserving of all the respect and praise\u00a0he receives.\u00a0In my opinion, I believe\u00a0he made a serious judgment error in this specific case. We all do\u00a0from time to time and I applaud him for taking the video down even with his conditional apology.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p10\">In the end it reminds of something I learned as a child:<\/p>\n<p class=\"p10\"><span class=\"s1\">Just because you can, doesn&#8217;t mean you should.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p10\"><span class=\"s1\">Climb On!<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p10\"><span class=\"s1\">Alan<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p10\"><span class=\"s1\">Memories are Everything.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p10\">[poll id=&#8221;18&#8243;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>When is it acceptable to show a picture of dead body that is decomposing, ambulance disfigured, or disturbing to a viewer? 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