{"id":22080,"date":"2016-03-15T11:49:03","date_gmt":"2016-03-15T17:49:03","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.alanarnette.com\/blog\/?p=22080"},"modified":"2016-03-30T21:25:25","modified_gmt":"2016-03-31T03:25:25","slug":"changing_mountain_part_3","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.alanarnette.com\/blog\/2016\/03\/15\/changing_mountain_part_3\/","title":{"rendered":"Everest 2016: A Changing Mountain &#8211; Part 3"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.alanarnette.com\/blog\/2012\/03\/19\/a-crowded-everest-west-ridge-and-pr-battle\/everest\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-8735\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-thumbnail wp-image-8735 alignleft\" src=\"http:\/\/www.alanarnette.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/03\/Everest-225x169.jpg\" alt=\"Everest West Ridge from Tibet (courtsey research)\" width=\"225\" height=\"169\" \/><\/a>Some\u00a0people are questioning the wisdom of climbing Everest from Nepal. Is the North safer? Is this another change in climbing Everest that could result in\u00a0a serious economic impact for\u00a0Tibet,   but more so for\u00a0Nepal?<\/p>\n<p>The Nepal (south) side of Everest has seen a tragic series of events the past few years including Himex abandoning\u00a0their entire expedition in 2012 fearing\u00a0an avalanche onto the Khumbu Icefall. Then that precise scenario\u00a0occurred in 2014 when that very serac released onto the Khumbu Icefall taking\u00a016 Sherpa lives. Then when a few Sherpas lead a work stoppage, the entire season came\u00a0to a early end that year. \u00a0Last year, 2015, an\u00a0earthquake triggered an avalanche that killed 18 in base camp on the south side.<\/p>\n<p>The <a href=\"http:\/\/www.tourism.gov.np\/np\" target=\"_blank\">Nepal Ministry of Tourism<\/a> seems to use the press as a sounding board by floating new rules in search of public relations points that they are making Everest safer. But in fact, these press releases confuse and delay people from\u00a0making\u00a0informed decisions.<\/p>\n<p>With the terrain instability combined with the political instability in Nepal, will the long time commercial operators shift to the Tibet in search of a more stable environment? This post explores that option with the operators.<\/p>\n<p>To state my view up front, climbing from either side has its pros and cons and there are\u00a0operators who can provide a safe experience at reasonable prices on both sides. Of course you can climb a different route than the ones discussed. \u00a0Bottom line: research the issues, choose carefully and climb safely.<\/p>\n<h3>China\u00a0Closes the Border<\/h3>\n<p>To start the discussion, China\u00a0provides surprises\u00a0almost every year. For example in 2008 when they effectively closed\u00a0Everest to accommodate their Olympic torch\u00a0summit. And then occasionally refusing permits to certain nationalities with no explanations. And finally closing their border fearing protests with little warning or means of appeal for expeditions who have\u00a0spent tens, if not hundreds of thousands of dollars assuming a smooth and safe border crossing.<\/p>\n<p>There are\u00a0already hints that China may be nervous in 2016 as teams will have to wait to cross the Nepal\/Tibet border on their way to base camp. The Chinese <a href=\"http:\/\/www.phayul.com\/news\/article.aspx?id=37071\" target=\"_blank\">announced<\/a> in January that all foreigners must leave Tibet and no one can enter until March 30, 2016. Ostensibly they are fearing protests ahead of several\u00a0politically sensitive anniversaries including the 2008 March uprising that rocked Tibet\u00a0in the run up to Beijing Olympics.<\/p>\n<p>These delays are somewhat normal for China as it seems that each year there are surprises that delay or even cancel climbing. This is why long time operators like IMG, Himalayan Experience, Altitude Junkies and others long ago shifted their Everest operations to the, arguably, more stable Nepal side. But\u00a0a few operators now prefer\u00a0the north side and one has made it the center piece of their Everest strategy arguing the Northeast Ridge is a safer route by avoiding the Khumbu Icefall on the south. Other operators hedge their bets and offer climbs on both sides.<\/p>\n<h3>A Discussion on North vs. South<\/h3>\n<p>With this as the introduction, I asked a few operators their opinion of which side is safer and if they are considering switching. But before we get to their comments, \u00a0let me provide the facts so you can make your own judgment about any potential spin in the following comments. The Himalayan Database, run by Elizabeth Hawley and Richard Salisbury, recorded from 1924 to today:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>The Nepalese side has 4,421 summits with 176 deaths or 3.98%<\/li>\n<li>The Tibet side has 2,580 summits with 106 deaths or 4.1%<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>The spin will be in parsing these statistics into time frames to prove that\u00a0the north, or south, is safer\u00a0or that &#8220;hired&#8221; as the Himalayan Database calls anyone who does not pay a guide but supports members, are more often killed than members in recent years. Again, the facts are that from 1924 to today:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>282 people (168 foreigners and 114 hired) have died on Everest<\/li>\n<li>Deaths climbing from Tibet: \u00a083 foreigners and 23 hired<\/li>\n<li>Death climbing from Nepal: \u00a085 foreigners and 91\u00a0hired<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Clearly the disastrous events of 2014 (17) and 2015 (22) have and must\u00a0be factored into any climber&#8217;s\u00a0risk assessment, but they should also be taken in context of the long term statistics.<\/p>\n<h3>The North is Safer, Obviously!<\/h3>\n<p>First up is Adrian Ballinger of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.alpenglowexpeditions.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">Alpenglow Expeditions<\/a>, perhaps the most vocal and strident north side advocate. Ballinger guided for Russel Brice&#8217;s Himex operation for years but left to grow his own company in 2012 and now exclusively operates on Everest&#8217;s north side eschewing all arguments that the south side is safe.<\/p>\n<p>Adrian offers\u00a0a list price of $85,000 per climber to attempt the summit\u00a0from the north in only six weeks. This includes pre-acclimatization via altitude tents, western guides and all the frills &#8211; and he runs a solid operation. He is there in 2016\u00a0but climbing personally with Cory Richards on a no O&#8217;s attempt. He has two members who are being guided by a western guide &#8211; all of whom are using supplemental oxygen. Ballinger sums up his opinion on the sides argument:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">I strongly believe that commercial guiding with hired workers on the South Side is unreasonable (and perhaps unethical) based on current mountain conditions combined with current commercial trip standards and current Nepali government rules. The icefall has repeatedly demonstrated its dangers, and we as guides and expedition leaders have demonstrated our inability to predict its random risk. 2014 was not a one-off accident that no one expected. Every competent guide and leader I knew had been waiting for that accident, or worse, to happen. As the requirements for what is carried through the icefall grows, the likelihood of icefall accidents involving workers like 2014 (or 2012, 2009, 2006, etc.) continue to grow.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<h3 class=\"p1\">South is Best for Most People<\/h3>\n<p class=\"p1\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.mountainguides.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">International Mountain Guides<\/a> (IMG) used to run climbs from Tibet but now exclusively runs Nepal climbs. I asked Eric Simonson if he is considering a north side expedition given what has happened in Nepal recently:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">No. In our opinion, the Nepal climb is still the  way to go for most people, and the sherpas want to get back on the mountain.\u00a0 There have been big improvements on the Nepal side since 2012 (the year of the big traffic jam) which unfortunately have been completely ignored with the news of the Icefall and avalanche tragedies in 2014 and 2015 .\u00a0For example, teams (together as the EOA) have been purchasing more fixed rope with the idea of putting in more \u201cup\u201d and \u201cdown\u201d ropes to mitigate \u201ctraffic jams\u201d.\u00a0 <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">As you know well, for 2015 the new Icefall route (more in the middle) seemed to be a good alternative.\u00a0 Most importantly, there has been a huge increase in communications between the various operators with a commitment to do a better job coordinating their summit bids and movement of climbers and sherpas high on the mountain (as in the case of the 2013 attachment, which was the product of team meetings at EBC).\u00a0 Having said all that, we would certainly consider going back to the North side occasionally.\u00a0 We have done 8 expeditions there, so we know the route and situation very well.\u00a0 Despite the \u201ccurrent issues in Nepal\u201d I still feel there is still more uncertainty associated with China and Tibet than there is with Nepal.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<h3 class=\"p1\">North is\u00a0Dangerous<\/h3>\n<p class=\"p1\">Willie Benegas of <a href=\"http:\/\/benegasbrothers.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">Benegas Brothers Expeditions<\/a> who has\u00a0been an Everest mainstay for years said:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">I do not see any difference on the north side in terms of logistical issues, they are all still there. However summit day is extremely dangerous on the north side, with many more chances of things going wrong due to the type of terrain. This year on the south side, thanks to the hard work of the Ice Fall Doctors, (my brother) Damian, and other guides, the ice fall was really in perfect climbing condition, to the point that not one person was injured or killed in the Ice Fall during the earthquake.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">What happened in Base Camp was simply the consequence of a 7.8 on the Richter Scale earthquake. Despite the deaths that occurred in BC, we need to remind ourselves that over 8,000 people died in this event. It has absolutely nothing to do with the south side being more dangerous than the north side (alleged by one guide who justified this claim by saying no one died on the north side during the earthquake). To the contrary, during the early 2000s, the accident ratio per numbers of climbers was actually much higher on the north side, and due to the type of climbers (on a budget). I guarantee you that the death toll will increase dramatically when more expeditions move over to the north.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Because the current situation is so difficult and complicated, with politics involved, it is all our responsibility, operators, guides and members, to keep helping the Nepali economy, and most importantly our Sherpas brothers.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<h3 class=\"p1\">North has a Big Future, But is Harder<\/h3>\n<p class=\"p1\">I then asked Phil Crampton of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.altitudejunkies.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">Altitude Junkies<\/a>, who has also guided both sides, why he doesn&#8217;t return to the north as he recently\u00a0said 2016 will be his last year guiding Everest &#8211; from either side:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">I am now thinking that the north side will eventually become busier than\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"s1\">the south after the last two disastrous years on the Nepal side. \u00a0The only\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"s1\">downside is if the border will be open or not as the Chinese have been\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"s1\">known to close it without due warning. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">I think the route is harder on the\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"s1\">north, which will deter some climbers with little experience and they will\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"s1\">head to the warmer and easier south side. I prefer the north side as it\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"s1\">seems to have more experienced climbers in attendance then the Nepal side.\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"s1\">Saying that, there are usually some huge Chinese teams supported by the\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"s1\">Tibet Guide School and these groups usually get preferential ment\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"s1\">when it?s time to fix ropes and go to the summit.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">One issue the north has is the rope fixing. The Tibetan Sherpas do a great\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"s1\">job but it?s harder to fix the ropes earlier in the season, due to the\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"s1\">constant wind and colder temperatures. There are a lot of nervous members\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"s1\">waiting at base camp watching days tick by for the rope fixers to complete\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"s1\">their job. This means a lot of climbers all go around the same time on the\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"s1\">summit push due to time constraints.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<h3 class=\"p1\">Both Sides Sell<\/h3>\n<p class=\"p1\">Dawa Stephen Sherpa of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.asian-trekking.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">Asian Trekking<\/a>, the largest Nepali climbing and trekking company, runs annual expeditions from both sides. He noted:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Unlike most other companies, Asian Trekking runs expeditions on both the Nepal and Tibet side.\u00a0From \u00a02008 until 2014 there was dramatic switch from the China side to Nepal side, due to the cancellations caused by abrupt decision making by the Chinese Authorities during the olympics. I haven\u2019t seen a drastic swing back to the north side yet but am getting more than normal enquiries for Tibet side. Especially with CTMA and CMA become more professional and being more open to its member\u2019s feedback, they are certainly have \u00a0become more attractive to work with.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<h3 class=\"p1\">Comparing the Sides<\/h3>\n<figure id=\"attachment_9639\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-9639\" style=\"width: 225px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.alanarnette.com\/blog\/2012\/04\/28\/everest-2012-lhotse-face-push\/380692_10150749674658411_503583410_10307676_764580444_n\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-9639\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-thumbnail wp-image-9639\" src=\"http:\/\/www.alanarnette.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/04\/380692_10150749674658411_503583410_10307676_764580444_n-225x169.jpg\" alt=\"2008 Everest Icefall Avalanche\" width=\"225\" height=\"169\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.alanarnette.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/04\/380692_10150749674658411_503583410_10307676_764580444_n-225x169.jpg 225w, https:\/\/www.alanarnette.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/04\/380692_10150749674658411_503583410_10307676_764580444_n-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.alanarnette.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/04\/380692_10150749674658411_503583410_10307676_764580444_n-640x480.jpg 640w, https:\/\/www.alanarnette.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/04\/380692_10150749674658411_503583410_10307676_764580444_n-169x126.jpg 169w, https:\/\/www.alanarnette.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/04\/380692_10150749674658411_503583410_10307676_764580444_n.jpg 800w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 225px) 100vw, 225px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-9639\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">2008 Everest Icefall Avalanche<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p class=\"p1\">I expect the current mix of 63% Nepal versus 36% Tibet to stay the\u00a0about the same but perhaps equalize to 50\/50 over next decade, but not soon. The convenience\u00a0and relative stability of Nepal simply outweighs the risks of China\u00a0for most Everest aspirants today.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">The trek to Everest Base Camp is a unique experience and one that many trekkers and climbers savor.\u00a0To get to the Tibet Base Camp, you ride in a 4 Wheel Drive for days on end on bumpy roads staying in dismal\u00a0rooms in depressing villages.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">But the Tibetan landscape leaves you awestruck and the view of Everest from the north base camp is the  of any mountain\u00a0anywhere in the world.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">The climbing has it&#8217;s pros and cons. The north has the climber staying at higher altitudes longer thus the acclimatization process is a bit shorter than on the south. The north climbing is a bit more &#8220;technical&#8221; in the sense that\u00a0the north, with its ever-present brutal winds that scours the snow away\u00a0leaving the climbers to struggle with crampons against bare rock, an uncomfortable and tiring process that saps energy away from those lacking experience.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">But the largest difference is the lack of\u00a0the Khumbu Icefall, that\u00a0for some is the single determining\u00a0factor when it\u00a0comes to safety and choosing sides.\u00a0As I always, I say\u00a0pick your poison.<\/p>\n<table border=\"1\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>NEPAL<\/strong><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>TIBET<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Nepal Elevations and Times Between Camps<\/strong><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Tibet\u00a0Elevations and Times Between Camps<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>\n<ul>\n<li>\n<div align=\"left\">Base Camp: 17,500&#8217;\/5334m<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<div align=\"left\">C1: 19,500&#8217;\/5943m &#8211; 3-6 hours, 1.62 miles<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<div align=\"left\">C2: 21,000&#8217;\/6400m &#8211; 2-3 hours, 1.74 miles<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<div align=\"left\">C3:23,500&#8217;\/7162m &#8211; 3-7 hours, 1.64 miles<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<div align=\"left\">Yellow Band &#8211; 1-3 hours<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<div align=\"left\">Geneva Spur &#8211; 1-2 hours<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<div align=\"left\">South Col: 26,300&#8217;\/8016m &#8211; 1 hour or less<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<div align=\"left\">Balcony: 3 &#8211; 6 hours<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<div align=\"left\">South Summit : 28500&#8242; &#8211; 8690m &#8211; 3 to 5 hours<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<div align=\"left\">Hillary Step &#8211; 1 hour or less<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<div align=\"left\">Summit: 29,035&#8242; \/ 8850m &#8211; 1 hour or less<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<div align=\"left\">Return to South Col: 3 -7 hours<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<div align=\"left\">Return to C2: 3 hours<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<div align=\"left\">Return to Base Camp: 4 hours<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/td>\n<td>\n<ul>\n<li>base camp: 17000&#8242; &#8211; 5182m<\/li>\n<li>Interim camp: 20300&#8242; &#8211; 6187m &#8211; 5 to 6 hours (first time)<\/li>\n<li>Advanced base camp: 21300&#8242; &#8211; 6492m &#8211; 6 hours (first time)<\/li>\n<li>North Col or C1: 23,000&#8242; &#8211; 7000m &#8211; 4 to 6 hours (first time)<\/li>\n<li>Camp 2: 24,750&#8242; &#8211; 7500m &#8211; 5 hours<\/li>\n<li>Camp 3: 27,390&#8242; &#8211; 8300m &#8211; 4 to 6 hours<\/li>\n<li>Yellow Band<\/li>\n<li>First Step: 27890&#8242; &#8211; 8500m<\/li>\n<li>Mushroom Rock -28047&#8242; \/ 8549m &#8211; 2 hours from C3<\/li>\n<li>Second Step: 28140&#8242; &#8211; 8577m &#8211; 1 hour or less<\/li>\n<li>Third Step: 28500&#8242; &#8211; 8690m &#8211; 1 to 2 hours<\/li>\n<li>Summit Pyramid &#8211; 2 hours<\/li>\n<li>Summit: 29,035&#8242; \/ 8850m &#8211; 1 hour<\/li>\n<li>Return to Camp 3: 7 -8 hours<\/li>\n<li>Return to ABC: 3 hours<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><\/td>\n<td><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>\n<div align=\"left\">\n<table style=\"height: 318px;\" border=\"1\" width=\"402\" cellspacing=\"2\" cellpadding=\"2\" align=\"center\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"50%\"><strong>Pluses<\/strong><\/td>\n<td width=\"50%\"><strong>Concerns<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Beautiful trek to base camp in the Khumbu<\/td>\n<td>Khumbu Icefall instability<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Easy access to villages for pre-summit recovery<\/td>\n<td>Crowds, especially on summit night<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Helicopter rescue from base camp if necessary<\/td>\n<td>Cornice Traverse exposure<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Slightly warmer sometimes with less winds<\/td>\n<td>Slightly longer summit night<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<\/div>\n<\/td>\n<td>\n<table style=\"height: 336px;\" border=\"1\" width=\"431\" cellspacing=\"2\" cellpadding=\"2\" align=\"center\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"50%\"><strong>Pluses<\/strong><\/td>\n<td width=\"50%\"><strong>Concerns<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Less crowds<\/td>\n<td>Colder temps and harsher winds<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Can drive to base camp<\/td>\n<td>Camps at higher elevations<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Easier climbing to mid-level camps<\/td>\n<td>A bit more difficult with smooth or loose rocks<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Slightly shorter summit night<\/td>\n<td>No opportunity for helicopter rescue at any point<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<h3 class=\"p1\">Crowds will Drive the Future<\/h3>\n<p class=\"p1\">I asked Phil Crampton for his long term view of where Everest guiding is going because\u00a0Phil has said 2016 is his last year on Everest after guiding it for over a decade on both sides. His answer is revealing:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">I think there are now a new breed of operators starting expeditions. Some\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"s1\">have worked for big name companies in the past and branched out on their\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"s1\">own. Some of these guys have invested many years in the hills but own very\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"s1\">little or no gear and use the gear of the better known trekking agencies.\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"s1\">It all seems good on the outside but they usually only know one or two of\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"s1\">their Sherpa staff. I think companies like Himex, AC, Jagged Globe, who\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"s1\">use a regular team of Sherpa staff have a better success rate and members\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"s1\">get a better service.\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"s1\">Everest is the big one and everyone relies on the Everest exposure to get\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"s1\">their members for future trips as well as smaller peaks all over the\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"s1\">world.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"> I think it?s business suicide to pull Everest from the schedule but\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"s1\">I am really getting very concerned for the safety of my Sherpas with all\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"s1\">these inexperienced climbers on Everest causing long lines and delays. If\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"s1\">I can offer them the same pay and bonuses on another spring climb that\u00a0<\/span>they would get from Everest then I will be happy to switch for safety.\u00a0It?s hard to sell peaks that people do not know well. Cholatse for example\u00a0is a harder and more technical climb than Ama Dablam and has very few\u00a0teams on her flanks compared to Ama Dablam that is way too overcrowded,\u00a0even in a quiet season.\u00a0People know of Everest and K2 but how many know about the third, fourth\u00a0and fifth highest peaks of the world.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">I met a British woman in her early fifties in Kathmandu after her\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"s1\">successful Everest attempt. I was sitting with Tunc Findak at the\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"s1\">courtyard chatting about previous expeditions we had climbed together on.\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"s1\">The British woman overheard us and proudly told us she had just climbed\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"s1\">Everest. We congratulated her and she asked where we had climbed. I\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"s1\">replied Kachenjunga and she replied, is that a mountain and if so, which\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"s1\">country is it in. My point exactly.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<h3 class=\"p1\">The Future?<\/h3>\n<p class=\"p1\">As the saying goes, if you must make predictions, do so often. With that &#8230;<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">What&#8217;s the\u00a0future of Mt. Everest? History has shown\u00a0that after each difficult or tragic year, a record number of climbers come to Everest the next year. I expect 2016\u00a0to break this trend with fewer climbers as the bad publicity after last year&#8217;s earthquake plus the political instability (constitution, blockades, change\u00a0of leadership) in Nepal has scared\u00a0away many climbers (and trekkers). But I expect slightly higher numbers of the North side for the same reasons.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">For\u00a02017, I anticipate record numbers on both sides <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong>IF<\/strong><\/span> 2016 is a low-drama year. However, Nepal extended the 2014 permits\u00a0for five years\u00a0and the\u00a02015\u00a0permits for only two years thus 2017 could emerge as a focal point\u00a0in people&#8217;s planning if\u00a0they want to save $11,000 in permit fees resulting in crowds and chaos on both sides.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">But overall, I expect Everest to continue\u00a0as it has. Attracting the experts, amateurs, peak baggers and life dreamers.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">We will see 10 to 15 deaths each year, split equally between members and &#8220;hired&#8221; &#8211; more on the south than the north due to the ratio of who climbs each side; prices will continue to go up &#8211; and down as the Nepali operators get a stronger foothold and the western operators add more frills.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">And the Nepal government will continue to use Everest as a cash cow to fund, well, to fund who knows what but we know that of the millions raised on the back of climbing little, if any, goes\u00a0back\u00a0to the Sherpa people or their villages.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">But one thing that will never change. \u00a0Mount Everest,\u00a0Sagarmatha, Chomolungma will always be the tallest mountain on\u00a0earth, and that will attract\u00a0climbers for generations, just as it has.<\/p>\n<p>Climb On!<br \/>\nAlan<br \/>\nMemories are Everything<\/p>\n<p>Read\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.alanarnette.com\/blog\/2016\/02\/19\/everest-2016-is-this-the-last-year-for-western-guides\/\">part 1<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.alanarnette.com\/blog\/2016\/03\/08\/everest-2016-changing-mountain-part-2\/\">part 2 <\/a>\u00a0and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.alanarnette.com\/blog\/2016\/03\/15\/changing_mountain_part_3\/\">part 3<\/a> of this series.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Some\u00a0people are questioning the wisdom of climbing Everest from Nepal. 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