{"id":29152,"date":"2018-03-01T09:52:43","date_gmt":"2018-03-01T16:52:43","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.alanarnette.com\/blog\/?p=29152"},"modified":"2018-03-01T09:52:43","modified_gmt":"2018-03-01T16:52:43","slug":"the-definition-of-winter-for-k2-and-everest-climbs","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.alanarnette.com\/blog\/2018\/03\/01\/the-definition-of-winter-for-k2-and-everest-climbs\/","title":{"rendered":"The Definition of Winter for K2 and Everest Climbs"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>With the drama dissipating from K2, the Polish team remains at base camp waiting for better weather. Everest is now officially over but the debate about when winter ends, will continue forever. See this <a href=\"http:\/\/www.alanarnette.com\/blog\/2017\/12\/22\/k2-and-everest-winter-climbs-are-on\/\">post<\/a> for full background on the K2 and Everest expeditions and the history of winter attempts on the highest two mountains on Earth.<\/p>\n<h3>Big Picture &#8211; When does Winter End?<\/h3>\n<p>One of the big questions this season on both K2 and Everest is &#8220;When does winter officially end?&#8221; If you have been reading my blog \u00a0you might have seen comments from readers with clear views, for example from one reader &#8220;They can summit after February, but it won&#8217;t be winter.&#8221; Other simply say it is at the Spring\u00a0equinox on March 20, 2018 at 12:15 pm EDT. The reality is, it depends on where you live and the local customs and definition.<\/p>\n<p>First off, both Pakistan and Nepal issue climbing permits with different fees according to the season. On Everest, for example, they charge USD$11,000 per person for a spring permit &#8211; the most popular time. But for a winter permit, the least popular time, it drops to USD$2,750. Both countries&#8217; tourism ministry define winter as December, January and February for permit purposes. They simply take the year and divide into four equal parts. For most people born and raised in this environment, that is what defines the seasons.<\/p>\n<p>However, many people, including myself, were raised and taught that the seasons are defined according to the astronomical definition which is based on how the sun hits the earth and the shortest and longest days each year, in other words the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.timeanddate.com\/calendar\/seasons.html\">equinoxes and solstices<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.timeanddate.com\/astronomy\/seasons-causes.html\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-29157\" src=\"http:\/\/www.alanarnette.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/03\/seasons-640x427.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"427\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.alanarnette.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/03\/seasons-640x427.png 640w, https:\/\/www.alanarnette.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/03\/seasons-300x200.png 300w, https:\/\/www.alanarnette.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/03\/seasons.png 750w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Then there are the seasonal definitions influenced by length of day and temperatures. Obviously March 1 at the North Pole compared to being on the equator are very different. Also, if it a rainy time of year or dry. To make matter even more complicated, the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thoughtco.com\/the-six-seasons-of-india-p2-1770072\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Hindu calendar<\/a> has six seasons!! But hold on, it gets worse (or different \ud83d\ude42 \u00a0)\u00a0 Australia and New Zealand use the meteorological definition, so spring begins on September\u00a01 each year. Ireland uses an ancient Celtic calendar system to determine the seasons, so spring begins on St Brigid&#8217;s Day on February\u00a01.\u00a0In Finland and Sweden, the dates of the seasons are not based on the calendar at all, but on temperatures.\u00a0To make your head spin a bit, take a look at this chart courtesy of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.scribd.com\/doc\/24990884\/Chart-of-Seasons-and-Months-Around-the-World\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Scribd<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scribd.com\/doc\/24990884\/Chart-of-Seasons-and-Months-Around-the-World\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-29156\" src=\"http:\/\/www.alanarnette.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/03\/seasons-around-the-world-640x449.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"449\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.alanarnette.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/03\/seasons-around-the-world-640x449.png 640w, https:\/\/www.alanarnette.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/03\/seasons-around-the-world-300x210.png 300w, https:\/\/www.alanarnette.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/03\/seasons-around-the-world.png 1006w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>So if the Poles summit K2 in March will it be winter or spring? The answer is &#8220;yes.&#8221;<\/p>\n<h3>K2 Team Stalled at Base Camp<\/h3>\n<p>Look for the K2 news to be slow for a few days. High winds and snow are keeping the Polish team in base camp. They would like to make one more acclimatization rotation above 7,000-meters before attempting the summit. Remember they are climbing without supplemental oxygen so it is mandatory they reach high altitudes to help the body prepare for the summit push.<\/p>\n<p>The latest from their <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/pg\/Polski-Himalaizm-Zimowy-2016-2020-im-Artura-Hajzera-161618080550304\/posts\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Facebook<\/a> account :<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Action mountaineering suspended due to snowfall and wind intensifying.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/pg\/Polski-Himalaizm-Zimowy-2016-2020-im-Artura-Hajzera-161618080550304\/posts\/\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-29154\" src=\"http:\/\/www.alanarnette.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/03\/Artura-Hajzera-640x360.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.alanarnette.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/03\/Artura-Hajzera-640x360.jpg 640w, https:\/\/www.alanarnette.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/03\/Artura-Hajzera-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.alanarnette.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/03\/Artura-Hajzera.jpg 1779w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Denis Urubko left K2 base camp on 28 February to begin his trip home with a parting shot of &#8220;Good Spring&#8221; according to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.montagna.tv\/cms\/119619\/urubko-racconta-il-suo-drammatico-tentativo-e-se-ne-va-dal-cb-augurando-buona-primavera\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Montagna.tv<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>You can follow the Polish team directly on their <a href=\"http:\/\/polskihimalaizmzimowy.com\/2018\/01\/15\/wiesci-z-15-stycznia-2018\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">website<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/Polski-Himalaizm-Zimowy-2016-2020-im-Artura-Hajzera-161618080550304\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Facebook<\/a>, and Adam&#8217;s\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/adambielecki.pl\/spot\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">SPOT<\/a> tracker.<\/p>\n<h3>Winter Everest &#8211; Over<\/h3>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/alex.txikon.5\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Alex Txikon<\/a>\u00a0has officially ended his effort as he said there was not a suitable weather window on the forecast. He told <a href=\"http:\/\/www.desnivel.com\/expediciones\/finaliza-el-intento-invernal-sin-oxigeno-al-everest-de-alex-txikon\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Desnivel<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The truth is that times are not easy, my biggest dream was to move from the Camp 4 to top, but the mountain is the decider, and it was impossible to move forward with these conditions. At the end of the day , the most important thing is that the whole team back safely to keep dreaming and enjoying the mountain<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Txikon said he would be back next winter.<\/p>\n<p>Climb On!<br \/>\nAlan<br \/>\nMemories are Everything<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>With the drama dissipating from K2, the Polish team remains at base camp waiting for better weather. 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