| Q: Where is Shishapangma? A: In south central Tibet a few miles from the Nepalese
            boarder and about 75 miles east of Mt. Everest. The nearest airports
            are Lhasa and Kathmandu. It is the 14th highest mountain on Earth and
            the lowest 8000m mountain. It is unique since it is the only 8000m mountain
            100% located in Tibet and not on a boarder. Similar to Everest's north
            side, there is a road that goes to the base camp sometimes call DC or
            Driver's camp. But after that it is all on foot and Yak. View
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 A: It is a Tibetan name meaning “crest
            above the grassy plain". The Chinese call it Xixabangma which is
            translated to mean "bad weather" or "severe climate"
 
 Q: What is the history?
 A:The first recorded ascent of
            Xixabangma was in 1964 by a mammoth size Chinese Expedition consisting
            of 195 climbers. Since it is one of the 14, 8000m mountains it been climbed
            by famous mountaineers from all over the world including Ed Viesturs,
            Reinhold Messner, Doug Scott, Roger Baxter-Jones, Alex MacIntyre, Alan
            Hinkes Jerzy Kukuczka and Erhard Loretan.
 
 Q: When is it usually climbed?
 A: As with most Himalayan peaks, Spring is best since every
            day it gets warmer with less threat of snow. The Fall season is just
            the opposite. I climbed in September and had a lot of snowy weather and
            severe snow with high winds towards the end that stopped the climb for
            our team and all the other expeditions.
 
 Q: I understand that Shishapangma is an easy 8000m climb. How
            hard is it?
 A: Shisha is often called an "easy" 8000m mountain
            in the sense that there is almost no technical climbing (e.g. vertical
            walls). However there is always avalanche dangers plus the biggest challenges
            is that it actually has two summits. Many climbers who claim they have
            summited Shisha have actually only attained the fore-summit (Central
            Summit). The true summit (Main Summit) is another 3 meters (12 feet)
            higher but requires a traverse of a knife edge ridge or a circuitous
            route from the Central Summit Ridge to reach it.
 
 Q: How does Shisha compare with Everest or other 8,000m peaks?
 A: It is a great training climb for aspiring Everest climbers
            to see how their body reacts to high altitude - 8,000m. It is very similar
            to Cho Oyu and Broad Peak except that Broad has more sustained steep
            climbing. There are no features like Everest's Lhotse Face or Hillary
            Step on Shishapangma but the overall atmosphere is similar.
 
 Q: Is a Shishapangma climb dangerous?
 A: Absolutely. You should only attempt Shishapangma if
            you have the proper experience and logistics for emergency situations.
            It is isolated and helicopter resource is not available. Most deaths
            are a result of falls but the weather and altitude also takes it's toll.
 
 Q: How many people have summited and how many people have died
            trying?
 A:  As of 2008 there have been about 273 summits (compared
            with approximately 3500 on Everest) according to research.
            23 climbers have died, including 1991 when six Japanese climbers were
            buried in an avalanche and in 1999, when top mountaineers Alex Lowe and
            Dave Bridges died on the mountain. Statistically, Shisha is more dangerous
            than Everest in modern times with a fatality rate of 8.4% versus 4.4%
            for Everest.
 Q: What was your training like?A: Aerobic capacity, muscular strength, balance and attitude.
              I ran, lifted weights, stretched and used visualization techniques
              to address these areas. I climbed Colorado 14ers regularly. I had to
              reduce my running since my knees just would not take it anymore so
              I used an elliptical machine instead. When I did run, I changed from
              long 8 mile runs to 3 miles runs with intervals. I climbed to 17,000
              on a three week Denali expedition in June 2007 just prior to this climb.
 
 Q: Was altitude a problem on this climb?
 A: Yes, it is always a challenge on 8,000m climbs. We
              used supplemental oxygen for the summit push. Altitude can be a problem
              for anyone above 8,000', much less when you are going above 22,000'.
              To acclimatize en route, the travel to base camp takes about ten days
              including a trip to Lhasa Tibet.
 
 Q: Can you prepare for the altitude?
 A: Not really. The common approach is to move slowly up
              the mountain (1000' a day maximum) spending your days at a higher
              altitude than where you sleep up until your summit bid. The human
              body simply does not function well at high altitudes and especially
              above 8000m (26,300'). As you go higher, the barometric pressure
              decreases, although the air still contains 21% oxygen, every breath
              contains less molecules of oxygen.
  Everest legend Tom Hornbein explained it to the American
                Lung Association this way:  The lower
              oxygen stimulates chemoreceptors that initiate an increase in breathing,
              resulting in a lowering of the partial pressure of CO2 and hence
              more alkaline blood pH. The kidneys begin to unload bicarbonate
              to compensate. Though this adaptation can take many days, up to
              80% occurs just in the first 48 to 72 hours. There are many other
              physiologic changes going on, among them the stimulus of low oxygen
              to release the hormone, erythropoietin to stimulate more red blood
              cell production, a physiological and still acceptable form of blood
              doping that enhances endurance performance at low altitudes. Adaptive
              changes are not always good for one’s health. Some South American
              high altitude residents can have what’s called chronic mountain
              sickness, resulting from too many red blood cells; their blood
              can be up to 84-85% red blood cells. The increased blood viscosity
              and sometimes associated pulmonary hypertension can result in right
              heart failure. You cannot do much to acclimatize while at a low altitude but
              there are companies that claim to help the acclimatization process
              through specially designed tents that simulate the reduced oxygen
              levels at higher elevations. I have no personal experience with
              these systems but you can find more details at the Hypoxico website.
              They cost about $7,000 or can be rented for about $170 a week.
              Outside Magazine posted an article in
            2013 questioning their effectiveness. Q: What kind of gear did you use? A: I have used the same gear for many years now - lot's
              of layers and down. It is always critical to protect my toes, fingers
              and face since these are most susceptible to frost bite. As for warmth,
              I always wear a knit cap and at least liner gloves when I get the least
              bit cool - regardless of the outside temp. I use a 3 layer system of
              Merino wool base layer (top and bottom), heavier fleece as in the Mountain
              Hardware Power Stretch (a Farmer's John kind of suit) or just my Patagonia
              Guide Pants depending on how cold it is that day then my top wind or
              warmth layer e.g. Patagonia Micro Puff and/or JetStream Shell. When
              the winds pick up and the temps hover near 0F, I add my Feather Friends
              850 Fill down jacket plus my mitts. See my gear
              page for a complete discussion and my gear list updated in 2013.
              I am very pleased with all my gear but have a few standouts items.
              I note these on my gear page.
 
 Q: Anything new - this time?
 A: I switched from a capiline base layer to merino wool.
              I have found it to wick faster and stay warmer than capiline. It worked
              great.
 
 Q: How do you communicate back home?
 I used a satellite phone from Thuraya for
              my personal use to transmit both voice and data from anywhere on the
              mountain as well as during the trek in. The phone works extremely well
              but I experienced some surprises with my subscription since the SIM
              expired two days after I arrived. I was unaware that this would happen.
              My service provider (Explorersweb's Humanedgetech) tried and failed
              to get it resolved but  was able to work directly with Thuraya
              to get it renewed. I used a Bgan data only satellite station for dispatches
              from ABC. It was faster (128KB vs 9600 baud) but more expensive than
              the handset ($11 per mb). For details on my expedition communications,
              please see this tutorial.
 
 Q: Was there web site coverage?
 A: Yes. On this site on the dispatch
              page and on the Project Himalaya site.
              Other team members posted Blogs and they are listed on Jamie's site.
 Q: Which route is most popular?
 A: The North ridge from Tibet is the most popular. The
            Swiss-Polish route on the South Face is the other common route but this
            is extremely dangerous and where Lowe and Bridges were killed by avalanche.  Remember
            that it actually has two summits: the fore-summit (Central Summit) and
            the true summit (Main Summit) which is another 3 meters (12 feet) higher
            but requires a traverse of a knife edge ridge or a circuitous route from
            the Central Summit Ridge to reach it.
 
 Q: How long will it take?
 A: A week or more to get to base camp, 4 weeks on the mountain
            and a few days to get back to Kathmandu or Lhasa. Count on 6 to 7 weeks
            total.
 
 Q: How much does a standard climb cost with and without a guide?
 A: The costs can range from $9,000 to $20,000 depending
            on who you use. If you use a logistics company only, you cut the highest
            cost by a third perhaps. See my Guide page
            for more details.
 
 Q: Do I need a permit to climb?
 A: As of 2008, the rules have drastically changed. The
            Chinese now require climbing permits to be issued after 5 days upon arrival
            in Kathmandu (or Lhasa, I assume). The entire team must be present. Another
            permit must be issued by the Chinese military at a post near Tingri.
            There may be other new requirements that are revealed so make sure you
            climb with an operator with experience with these new rules to prevent
            delays and disappointment.
 
 Q: Do I really need a guide for Shishapangma?
 A: You will need help getting a permit and entering Tibet
            at a minimum. Once there, It all depends on your skills, money and time
            available. Shishapangma is a serious high-altitude climb. Some people
            go to Shishapangma without a formal guide and contract with local agencies
            for yaks, porters or carry everything themselves but this is probably
            not an option anymore. There are few climbers on Shishapangma so you
            would probably be alone much of the time. In harsh weather (white-outs)
            or in a medical emergency, you will be on your own so consider your skill
            level carefully. Climbing alone or in too small of a team is never a
            good idea.
 
 Q: Are there local guides for Shishapangma?
 A: Yes but the Chinese have made significant changes recently
            favoring only Tibetan guides, cooks, porters and staff. You will definitely
            need some type of assistance. There are many quality choices based out
            of Kathmandu that can help with logistics. Some are less expensive than
            traditional Western companies but most charge about the same price. My
            usual advice is to get recent references from a climber with a similar
            background and skill level as yourself. Get everything in writing. Finally
            ask about food, group gear and language skills.
 
 Q: How do you get on an expedition to climb Shishapangma?
 A: Most reputable guides ask for your climbing resume and require
            some serious climbing experience. Ideally they want to see climbs of
            Denali or Aconcagua. But most anyone can get on a Shishapangma commercial
            expedition these days without many questions so be careful who you select
            since you may get caught up in a mess.
 
 Q: What is involved if I plan my own climb?
 A: Basically everything: permits, travel, hotels, food,
            gear, routes, communications, emergency contentions - everything. There
            are local companies in Katmandu who can provide some services such as
            getting food or heavy tents to base camp. And some can provide a Sherpa
            at low costs. You can save a lot of money this way but as I said before,
            consider your skills in the event that something goes wrong - are you
            100% self sufficient? What are your medical skills? HAPE and HACE are
            really possibilities on Shishapangma - do you have the proper medicine
            and training to deal with it? And a hundred more questions. See my guide
            page for more. Again, climbing alone or in small teams is never a
            good idea. Saving a few thousand dollars is not worth your life.
 Q: Did you summit?
 A: No. We got to about 7000m before a huge weather
            front hit the mountain - the second in a 2 week period. It basically
            shut the mountain down. Only 2 climbers reached the central summit in
            2007 and none to the true summit.
 
 Q: Which route was used?
  A: The north ridge route. This is what is considered the "normal" route.
            There were four camps established at roughly 18,300', 21,000', 23,000'
            and 24,600'. The summit is 26,335''. An interim camp named the Depot
            camp was used on the early climbs to store gear and for one night. It
            was at 19,200'. The route follows the Shishapangma glacier to the Eastern
            Cwm, up the North Ridge then traverses the North East face to the summit
            ridge.
 
 Q: Who ran the expedition?
 A: Jamie McGuinness of Project
            Himalaya.
 
 Q: What is their history on Shishapangma?
 A: Jamie had run three expeditions to Shisha reaching the
            Central summit twice. He is based in Kathmandu and uses the same Sherpa
            team for many expeditions including Everest and 8000m climbs in Pakistan.
 
 Q: How did Jamie and his team do?
 A: The logistics from Kathmandu and Lhasa to and at Advanced
            base camp were outstanding with no surprises. The on-mountain leadership
            was dependent on each individual since this was not a "guided" climb
            with a formal Western Leader or Lead Sherpa (aka Sidar). So there was
            some confusion from time to time on who was going where, when. However
            there was never a shortage of tents, stoves or fuel at the High Camps.
            Jamie ran the expedition enabling each climber to be very independent
            and the team in a consensus manner. There was minimal direction as to
            the on-mountain activities. The food at BC and ABC was excellent. We
            had freeze dried food at the High Camps and cooked it ourselves.
 
 Q: How many climbers were on the expedition?
 A: It was too big. We had two teams of 8 people plus Sherpas,
            cooks and kitchen help. There were over 25 in camp. But the team dynamics
            were the best I have ever experienced and everyone got along well. All
            base camps camps were comfortable except for the small 2 person tents
            at the High Camps. I would not recommend the Mountain Hardware EV-3 tents
            due to their narrow size and poor ventilation. However they are lightweight
            and I never had to carry one up so I can appreciate the trade-off.
 
 Q: How was the climbing?
 A: The climbing was straightforward. The route to camps 1 and
            2 were on snow slopes that varied in angle. There were some steep sections
            near the top of both slopes or just below the camps. The route to the
            Depot camp followed the glacier and was sometimes on a sharp angle of
            loose rock or scree. We had to cross the glacier and a series of 20 to
            30 foot ice spires or Penitentes. This was a little of a surprise and
            took 1.5 hours the first time. We had a few people slip into the icy
            cold waters but no serious damage was done. The climb to Camp 3 on the
            Central Summit Ridge was on a steep snow slope that had avalanche danger.
            No one even tried it in 2007. From C3 you follow a ridge to the Central
            Summit.
 Q: What kind of weather conditions did you have?A: We climbed in late September and early October after
              the annual monsoon season has ended. So generally it was clear but
              colder than in the spring.We had significant more snow than in previous
              years and thus stopped all the summit bids from all teams. The winds
              were strong from time to time and thus cold.
 
 Q: Did you use bottled oxygen?
 A: No, it is not usually used on Shisha.
 
 Q: Would you climb Shisha again?
 A: Yes. I really enjoyed the entire expedition and that
              part of the Himalaya and Tibet. If I ever did go back I would aim for
              the true summit but be pleased with Central. Also I would return with
              Project Himalaya.
 
 Bottom LineShishapangma is a fantastic climb especially for your first 8000m
              mountain. But there are many complications as of 2008 with the new
              Chinese regulations and attitude. The actually climbing is enjoyable
              and satisfying. Seeing Tibet is educational and inspirational. But
              if the complications continue to grow, the Nepal climb of Manaslu may
              be the best alternative for a first 8000m climb.  |